Dear Friends,
The registration and availing 80 G doesnt require 2-3 yrs time.
It can be done in 6 months time (Registration in 1 and half months and then after around 3-6 months u can go for 80G)
The ideas shared here by our members are very nice. We encourage such ideas and discussions.
Please keep posting the constructive suggestions and try to render your services for the discussed projects.
As mentioned in above mails, we have already started planning for our Scholarship Fund, if people want to volunteer please contact us.
Thanks
Aamir Idrisi
Association of Muslim Professionals
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Shahid Siddiqui <shahid.sid@gmail.com> wrote:
Assalamoalikum,I would like to mention one of the charitable organization here. It's name is Mesco Trust based at Mumbai. It's email id is mescotrust@mescotrust.org, mescotrust@yahoo.co.in
You can find more about it at their site at: www.mescotrust.org
This trust is run by muslims and for upliftments of muslims and has different categories viz Zakah / Charity / Hadya and as far as I am aware they do take care of where the funds are used.I have donated to this trust and they have a really good group of people handling its accounts and all the activities.So, go ahead and find more about it if you like.Jazakallah khair,Shahid--On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Noaman Ahmed <noaman712@yahoo.com> wrote:
Assalamoalikum,
I think we had enough of pondering hence thought of summarizing the points.
There is a misconception that we are supposed to give only 2.5 % of our wealth as Zakah. 2.5% is minimum that we should be giving failing to do so disqualifies as Muslims. There is no upper limit and it depends on individuals responsibilities and capacity to give.
Need of the hour is to have charitable organization which accepts donations and while doing so tags it into different categories viz Zakah / Charity / Hadya. This is required because money collected for Zakah can not be spent for making Masjid.
The donor will have an option of mentioning the beneficiary. The beneficiary must qualify as someone who is eligible to receive Zakah. The donor will get a receipt which can be used for tax rebate.
Charitable organization should also maintain a database of people / organizations / institutions / masjid / madrasas in need of funds and any surplus should be given to these on a need basis.
The existing organizations don't give any option to the donor to decide the beneficiary or the purpose for which the amount should be spent.
What I understood from various discussions is we have to register the organization / avail for 80g and for doing all this it will take around 3 years or so it is long and time consuming process to start getting tax rebate. Before that happens we can at least have something in place. Ramzaan is only couple of months away and it would be great if we can run a pilot project for coming Ramzaan.
Allah Hafiz,
Nauman
--- On Thu, 6/3/10, Aasim Khan <kkhanasim@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Aasim Khan <kkhanasim@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AMP-INDIA:833] Re: Points to ponder
To: ampf@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 1:26 PM
I too agree with you Asim, as it is the solution provided by Allah for taking care of the weaker section of society, then its the only way out for us.We have to see how we can achieve it, but there is a difference between donations and Zakath. The person has to clear that he/she is giving Zakat/Sadaka/Hadiya.These 3 have different meanings.Zakat can only be given to the ppl who qualify the criteria.Sadka to any needy.Hadiya to all.There are organization working in this regards as well, I know one in AP. Which collects Zakat and uses it to sponsor students of ppl who are need of Zakat and thus when they pass out the family is out of poverty.This way they are enabling the few ppl a yr, but those few are coming out of Zakat criteria in fews yrs ahead and are leaving a good life.
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Asim <asimhabeeb@gmail.com> wrote:
As salaam o alaikum
It was just a suggestion i made, but i do feel that it is necessary to
have an organization which will collect zakath in a professional and
organized manner. I believe that if Zakath is collected and
distributed in an organized manner amongst the needy then within a
couple of years we would be able to wipe out poverty amongst muslims.
Please see this link for a study about Zakath donations in india.
http://www.aicmeu.org/Zakat_And_Economic_Empowerment.htm
Thank you.
> --- On Tue, 6/1/10, Asim <asimhab...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 1, 4:14 pm, Noaman Ahmed <noaman...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Assalamolalaikum ,
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> I received couple of replies to my suggestion which made me feel that I was not able to convey the message correctly or people missed the point I wanted to convey.
>
> Everything depends on "Intention". Even if others get to know about any act of charity done by us it is perfectly fine as long as it is not done with the intention of showing off. In some cases people get encouraged to give more in Charity when they come to know about it.So it does more good than bad.
>
> It is a common observation that majority of zakah is given during the holy month of Ramzaan and it has little or no impact on the life of those who receive it; as maximum amount is spent in buying clothes/ and Eid celebrations.
>
> There is no denying the fact that a lot of charity is being given but due to not so organized way of collection and distribution the impact is lost and it fails to change life of those who receive it. We keep getting ad-hoc request to help poor patients admitted into hospitals / for education / marriage etc etc and if we form an organization that collects large amounts and then distributes it then we can affect many more people.
>
> Tax rebate for charity should not be confused with tax "Evasion". More and more people would like to be part of such initiative if they get some incentive. It is up to the individual what he / she wants to do with the tax rebate want to keep to self or give again to the needy.
>
> Another benefit of forming a charitable organization is transparency as they have to get audited and show proof of how the amount given was used. It is better than give it to some fake organization which does little good with the amount collected.
>
> Charity is encouraged in Islam but Chritians have championed the art of managing the charitable organizations. So much so that even Bill Gates the richest of them all is now into full time charity.
>
> Hope this helps in clarifying some doubts.
>
> Nauman
>
> It is a pity that despite such a large muslim population we don't have many such organizations.
>
>
> From: Asim <asimhab...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [AMP-INDIA:810] Re: Points to ponder> > For residents of Hyderabad / APwww.feed-hyd.org/isdoing a great service of collecting and channelizing funds for the purpose of education and vocational training. Funds given to this organization are tax exempted.
> To: "AMP - INDIA" <ampf@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 2:12 PM
>
> As salaam o alaikum
>
> The idea by brother noaman is a very good one indeed.
> But jus wondering. Islam encourages us to give charity. and it
> encourages it in such a manner that when we give from the right hand,
> the left hand must not come to know of it. with such traditions - how
> good will it be if we are going to use our charity to gain benifits by
> way of tax deduction.
>
> Thank you and Regards.
>
> On May 23, 6:28 am, Noaman Ahmed <noaman...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Assalamolaikum,
>
> > New Education Year is about to start in June first / second week. This is the time of the year when most of the muslim parents have to spend money for buying school supplies / uniforms / admission / tution fees etc.
>
> > In Maharashtra government or government aided schools take care of books and uniform in some cases for girls but in rest of India the situation is different. It would be great if we can keep aside some funds from either Zakah or regular charity for the cause of education. Even if we manage to save 1 student for getting dropped out of school due to lack of funds then it would be of great help. Right to Education bill can't be successful until each one of us do our bit to ensure education to our future generation(s).
>
> >
> > NGOs like CRY / FEED etc are doing a great job for childrens and their education but the issue is they collect the donated amount and then distribute it among those whom they want to give and we as a donor have no say. This means donations made to these organizations are at the cost of the charity / help that we offer to those whom we know in person. If we make an NGO which will collect money and give it to the beneficiary that we want and in turn give us a reciept with valid tax id that can be used for tax exemption then it would be great. The donor will get tax rebate / the NGO will be able to mobalize significant amount of funds and beneficiaries will remain same.
> >
> > For exampe : I give 12000 Per annum to my uncle for the education of his kids. Now I don't get any tax exemption for this. But if I route the same 12000 INR thru some NGO which will collect the money from me give me a reciept and then give the same amount to the very same uncle of mine then I would be able to avail for the tax rebate.
> >
> > Now this whole excercise is not meant to be done so that we can avail tax rebates of whatever little amount we give. THe purpose is to attract large number of muslims / non muslims towards this organization and collect the significant amount and then spend it wisely for benifiting those who need it.
> >
> > I don't know whom to approach and what needs to be done to get such orgnization approved and get in action. In case anyone can help me then it would be of great help. If you know someone else offering the same service then that is fine too. In US of A almost all masjid / madrasaas are registered like this and any amount donated to them qualifies for tax rebates. We need to emulate same model in India.
> >
> > If any brother wants to talk to me then can reply only to me and insha Allah we will take this forward.
> >
> > Allah Hafiz,
> >
> > Nauman
>
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