Haider bhae……
Ulma ka panel tu Eid, Ramzan k chand pe he mottafik hojaey…..kafi hoga……..in mamlaat me mottafik honay ki imkaan utny he km jitna
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Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [PF:156334] ALLAH SWT keliye sounch a'e Musalman, SAHABA kis deen per theh...
theek hey bhai ap ulama k panel se rabta krain ... jzkALLAH
On 3 June 2010 15:42, Zia-ur-Rehman <zrehman@olayandescon.com.pk> wrote:
Hmmmmmm……
Akhri baat ka akhri jawab bhi zrori hy……
Jab banda boht zada bemaar hota hy tu aik specialist k pas nhi jata….balkay doctors k panel bhi beth jatay hyn….or aik sy zada doctors ki negahdasht me ajata hy…..or hum log abi sirf bemaar nhi hyn….boht zada bemar hyn..total I.C.U case hy…
Isi tarha…..agr jurum zada sangeen ho tu….aik wakeel k bus ki baat nhi…..wakeel ki team chaey hoti hy….tab jakar case jeeta jata hy…..hamara jurum chota mota nhi….boht sangeen hy….aik firkay ko banany ka jurum hota tu shaayad mamla asani sy nibat jata..
Mgr ab yahan najanay kitnay firkay banany ka jurum sar pe hy….so aik sy zada imam ki help lay li jaey tu koi mozaeeka nhi I think….
Same dua for you….
ameen
From: karachi-786@googlegroups.com [mailto:karachi-786@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Haider Ali
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [PF:156330] ALLAH SWT keliye sounch a'e Musalman, SAHABA kis deen per theh...
g shukria
akhri baat k jab banda bimaar ho to wo kisi specialist doctor k paas jata hey. aur agar police court ka masla ho to achay se acha wakeel donda jata hey. issi tarha bhai jaan deen k mutaliqa amoor ka hal k liay kisi achay Alim se rabta karna chahiay.
bass ye meri akhri guzarish thi.
Allah ap ko jaza-e-khair atta farma'ay... aameen
On 3 June 2010 14:07, Zia-ur-Rehman <zrehman@olayandescon.com.pk> wrote:
Ok theek hy…..i will……INSHA ALLAH…..
Or haan…..log tu badzan hongay….Me bhi Badzan honay walon me sy aik hon…..in firkon ny muslims ny ko jitna kamzoor kia hy…..utna ksi ny nhi kia…..
jab…log badzan hongay….or Islam ko is firkay bazi sy nijaat milay gi….dykh lyna tab he hum donia me izzat ka makam paen gy…otherwise…ap ki Dayr Inch ki masjid….myri Dayr inch ki masjid…..youn he chalta rahy ga…..
From: karachi-786@googlegroups.com [mailto:karachi-786@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Haider Ali
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [PF:156323] ALLAH SWT keliye sounch a'e Musalman, SAHABA kis deen per theh...
aur yahan aisi posting se guraiz krain... log becharaay badzan hotay hein..
On 3 June 2010 12:54, Haider Ali <jassoran@gmail.com> wrote:
ye batain samjne k liay kisi Alhe sunnat Alam se rabta krain.. inshaALLAH ap ko samj a jay gi.
On 3 June 2010 12:44, Zia-ur-Rehman <zrehman@olayandescon.com.pk> wrote:
Galat Firkay?
Yh term samaj nhi arahe mujy kuch…..coz myry khayal sy Firkay tu galat he hotay hyn…According to Quran Pak…..
From: karachi-786@googlegroups.com [mailto:karachi-786@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Haider Ali
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [PF:156317] ALLAH SWT keliye sounch a'e Musalman, SAHABA kis deen per theh...
baqi galat firqay har dor mein atay rehtay hain aur kuch dair rehne k baad khatam ho jatay hein.
On 3 June 2010 12:34, Haider Ali <jassoran@gmail.com> wrote:
bhai sb 2 friqay to hain aik un mein se haq par hey aur aik batil par.. okies
aik group ko Ahle Sunnat wal jamat kehtay hein dosray ko Shia kehtay hain.. okies
ab Ahle sunnat wal jamat k 4 sections hein. charon sections walay charon imam (ra) ko haq mantay aur samjtay hein. charon imamo ne Quran o Hadees ko apney apnay tor par samja aur masaal akhaz kiay aur tamam dunia k Ahle sunnat ka adeeqa hey k wo sab ne jo samja sahi samja.... is liay Ahlesunnat wal jamat in tamam k aqaid b partay hein... Ahnaaf k madaras mein charon sections ki kitabain parhai jati hein... okies
laikan bhai sb amal sirf aik hi imam k mutabiq kia ja sakta hey. aik saath 4 imam ki fiqa par amal nahi kia ja sakta hey. is liay ahle sunnat wal jamat aik waqat main kisi aik imam ki hi itbah kartay hein.. okies.. so it is not firqa bazi.. it is fiqa... okies
is liay yaad rakhain basic firqay 2 hein ... 1. Ahlesunnat 2. Shia... aur yaqeenan in mein se aik HAQ par hey aur aik batil.... okies
Ahlesunnat 4 firqay nahi 4 sections hein... okies... umeed hey ap meri baat samj gay hon gay..
On 3 June 2010 10:22, Zia-ur-Rehman <zrehman@olayandescon.com.pk> wrote:
Dear haider,
Logon ko bewakoof tu un logon ny banaya jo in Firkon pe lartay rahy….aaj jab koi keh raha hy k in firkon ko chor do….tu ap usay logon ko bewakoof banany wala samaj rahy hyn?
Khair…..ap ny kaha ki 1000 saal k muslim ka kya bana hoga….musrik…kafir…etc etc….
Me ap sy pochta hon….yh jo aaj kal k log KHUD Kash Hamlay kr rahy hyn…..ksi na ksi Alim ki baton me akar….apni jaan zaya kar rahy hyn….in ka kya banay ga? yh bhi tu ksi firkay k kehnay pe masooom logon ko maar rahy hyn….
Baat sedi hy…..ALLAH ny akal-o-shaur sb ko dia hy….1000 saal me ap kysy keh sktay ho k sb Fiqa Hanfia pe amal krny walay thy? 1000 saal me kysy keh sktay ho k sb log Fiqa Ahl-e-hadees walay thy? Ya sirf Barylvi thy? Wagyra wagyra..
Ap ko har Firkay wala….apni apni daleel dy kar bata skta hy k us ka Firka sb sy porana hy….even sahaba k zamany tak apny firkay ko lay jaey ga….or sb k saboot bhi dy ga….tu kya aap us firkay pe amal krny lago gay?
Aik baat or bataoo ap….jo baraylvi hy….kya wo jahanumi hy? ya jo Deo Bandi hy…kya wohe sirf Jannati hy?
Baki logon ka kya hoga? Tell me…..
Mujh jysy log…jo ksi Firkay pe Yaqeen nhi rakhtay….un ka kya hoga???
Jo baat Haq hy…wo hamesha sy rahe hy…..or Insha ALLAH rahy gi….yani….in Firkon sy jo inkaar krty hyn….wo kal bhi thy…or aaj bhi hyn….or hamesha rahen gy….kyon k Quran ny saaf in firky bazi sy roka hy…
Or haan….ksi bhi firkay ka mazak na uraen….yh galat baat hy…ahl-e-Hadees hon ya Barylvi….ya koi or…..
Hamen koi haq nhi k hum ksi bhi Firkay ka mazak uraen……
From: karachi-786@googlegroups.com [mailto:karachi-786@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Haider Ali
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [PF:156280] ALLAH SWT keliye sounch a'e Musalman, SAHABA kis deen per theh...
bhai ye sab batien sirf galt fahmi paida karti hein. in ka kaam hi seeday saday logon ko bewaqoof banana hota hey.
baqol ap k 400 saal tak koi in fiqa par amal karne wala nahi tha to bhai jaan 1000 saal se musliman in fiqa par amal kar rahay hein to in 1000 saal k muslim ka kia banay ga. phir to wo ap k nazdeeq beydeen aur kafir/mushrik howay. aur ye 150 saal walay sahi muslim ban ga'ay. lol ... agar in ka dawa hey k ye 150 saal se pahlay mojood thay to koi tareekhi saboot paish krain. jesay koi tafeekhi masjid.hargiz nahi paish kar sakein gay..Alhamdulillah Ahnaaf bahot sari paish kar saktay hein.
pahly Ahlehadees us ko kehtay thay jo hadees ka ilm janta tha aur ye k har hadees k ravi kitne hein ye b jata tha aur ye b janta tha k in ravion k halaat-e-zindagi kesay thay such bolte thay k jhootay thay yaadast kesi thi etc etc. ussay ahle hadees kethay they. aj k ahlehadees ...lol....jis ko wazoo karna nahi ata wo b ahlehadees bana betha hey. namaz-e-janaza nahi ata ahlehadees banay bethay hein. ...
On 31 May 2010 12:18, Zia-ur-Rehman <zrehman@olayandescon.com.pk> wrote:
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